So, Sidhedude, what are you hearing

Updated on December 18, 2020 in General Stuff
16 on December 12, 2020

What are your sources saying about the overall situation?

I was reading something from Bret Weinstein the other day that made me think of you. The short version is that we are all carrying around a number of genetic programs, and one of them has to do with what happens within a population when a given opportunity has played itself out. When that program is triggered, populations will either cross a border and attack another population in order to gain resources, or the population will turn inward and isolate and eliminate an internal subgroup.

Rather alarming, really.

 
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Are you talking about the political zeitgeist? I’m not really getting anything from any of my friends in LE or .mil. Pretty much radio silence. I suspect that everyone is waiting to see what we will see. I also think a lot hinges on the Georgia runoffs, and the fallout from the final Senate tally. 
close to home, we just this week had a guy show up with oil and gas in the middle of the day to burn down the local dem headquarters, a task at which he gave the old college try, to the tune of 10s of ks in damages, after scaring the occupants out. Wasn’t any friend of mine, though. 😀

Right now, the LE guys are more worried about the current push to defund and “reimagine” policing, and the flight of city cops to rural areas or private gigs. You may have seen that carjackings are up 527 percent in MNPLS this month over last year, and there are similar under currents in several other riotous cities. Of note, the real scuttlebutt isn’t just the local bad boy citizenry taking advantage of the new rules, rather, there is a lot of interest in the Jalisco New Generation cartel (easy to look up) who are evidently taking advantage of the current climate to expand their activities and influence into CA, OR, WA, MN, etc., in addition to the fun they’ve been having in AZ for some time now.

But the closest I’ve seen to any discussion of any sort of impending unrest was a random text I got from an LE/training buddy out of the blue last month with a link to some sort of portable shortwave radio on Amazon, with the comment that “Mrs Sidhe and I should grab one of these…”

Yee-haw. 

I’ll wait until I see a report of “technicals”* in a US city, before I get too concerned. Or the runoff results, whichever comes first. 
😀

 

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(vehicle)

 

I’m not sure if that’s what you were asking, but since the only sources I have are ex-SOF/contractors with bad knees, and guitar jocks, I’m just gonna fly with my naivete  on an answer. 😉

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0 on December 12, 2020

“Some see secession. But though secession is unlikely, a secession of the heart has already taken place in America. We are two nations, two peoples seemingly separated indefinitely. Can a nation so divided as ours, racially, ideologically, religiously, still do great things together, as did the America of days gone by, to the amazement of the world?”  — Pat Buchanan, 12/11/2020.

 

I think Pat Buchanan’s opinion there, right or wrong, is responsive to your question.   I can only speak of my own “heart,” but it had already reached a point 5 years ago where I was leery of talking to old friends, and moreso to strangers, about current events of any kind, because it would inevitably become political and unpleasant.  My leeriness has only increased.  Witness the creation of this very board.  (Jeff, I realize you didn’t create it purely as an alternative to The Soundhole, but that’s what it is, for me at least.)  

Buchanan has been on this “culture war” thing since 1992: “There is a religious war going on in this country. It is a cultural war, as critical to the kind of nation we shall be as the Cold War itself.  Buchanan’s secession of the heart language above is an echo  of his culture war message of ’92.”

I have “divorced” several people that I once considered friends.  It’s not “sad”;  we just all of us, I think, reach a point where diminishing returns in a relationship (in this case, our relationship with our political opposites or antagonists) make it not worth the energy to preserve.  For me, anyway.  My extended family is all conservative, so we don’t have those “difficult Thanksgiving dinners” one reads about that some families experience.  Still, I and my wife have essentially seceded.  We once loved NYC, for example.  We’ll never return there, or to San Fran, as we know when we aren’t welcome.  But I am not oiling up my guns. I  simply bid Blue America a less than fond adieu.  

To Bret Weinstein’s point, I and my wife have “turned inward and isolate(d),” but we have no plans to eliminate an internal subgroup … yet,  LOL.  The lizard part of my brain, meaning “most of it,” certainly  feels that impulse Weinstein describes, but I’m not violent and life is pretty sweet for me and mine, yes, even in the pandemic.  

 

BTW, I didn’t know until this morning that there were all these other threads. I’ve been getting notifications only about posts in the one thread I created.   

 

 

 

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The terrifying thing about what Weinstein said is that there’s really no avoiding it. He’s an evolutionary biologist. In his formulation, those “programs” (patterns of behavior genetically encoded) exist because hundreds of millions of years of evolution put them there. Because they work. Populations with some members who have those programs exhibit more fitness over time.

In the present moment, there is reason to think that the post WWII burst of prosperity enjoyed in the US is an “opportunity that has played itself out”.

Could get interesting.

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I agree that there are some divisions that, like water that starts as an arroyo and eventually carves a canyon, may be too deep and entrenched to go back. I’m already aware of people moving across the border from WA into ID, due to the political climate in Olympia, and wanting to hedge to make sure that their main investment (home) is located on the right side of any upcoming political border. To quote Jeff, this is data, from people with skin in the game.

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This might be of interest. A bit of a fluff piece, and it dates from before the elections, but seems prescient enough, despite those flaws.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjp48x/is-the-us-already-in-a-new-civil-war

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Lots of interesting stuff inside of that Vice article.

This might constitute dead horse beating on my part, but as I read through it, with all the references to Ireland and Italy, I couldn’t help but go back to a collection of thoughts I’ve had for some time. 

Namely, the US is very unlike any other country. Compared to I&I, we are 1) Vast (spread out across a continent) 2) Huge (something like 50x the population of Ireland and 5x the population of Italy) 3) Distinctly non-homogeneous with respect to race/religion/culture/background/etc.

I’ve long thought that there are hidden social inflection points associated with scale.

On the general point – “The US is already in a civil war” – I guess with some flexibility of definition, that has to be deemed “true”. 

I hold out hope that at some point in the escalation, the pointlessness of all this will become manifest. We don’t need a civil war. We need a divorce.

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I read the Vice piece, too. Other than thier obviously ridiculous biases showing (c’mon, Proud Boys destroyed Portland? Are you serious?) I just can’t quite take the open civil war projections too seriously at this point. I think there’s got to be some kind of population (or technical surrogate) density metric for sucessful war taught in military schools that ultimately says you’ve got to have so many hostile bodies per square mile before a civil war can actually gain enough traction to light off. And the US doesn’t have that across 90% or so of the countries land mass.

I see that fact and the increasing mobility of the work force thanks to COVID as a death knell for many of the big cities in this country. But most of the country will simply watch it on TV until the squealing stops. I see the right wing crazies in the country continuing to be pretty much the equivalent of the Nazis in the “Blues Brothers” movie, still moving around and making noise, but not being able to actually do more than drive thier Pinto off the end of the not-quite-completed overpass into space. I mean, they theoretically live around here and I can’t name a single one.

And now that we’ve been cheated in this election, ironically one of Trump’s maybe greatest legacies, we just ain’t playing anymore. I’d look for more of the 2nd Amendment Sanctuary push back against DC and anything they want to do.

But I don’t see war.

Yet.

on December 16, 2020
I see that fact and the increasing mobility of the work force thanks to COVID as a death knell for many of the big cities in this country.From Piecesofmalarkey

Good point.

And not just cities, but states. We’re already seeing quite an exodus from California and New York. When Elon Musk decides to leave California and move to Austin (and even threaten to build a plant in Texas), that’s a big deal.

on December 16, 2020

I remember seeing something a few years ago that we’d reached the point where more people lived in cities than not (in country, world, whatever) and that was BFD important.

Welcome to that inversion, too.

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0 on December 17, 2020

So long as irony is still a thing, did you know that both “Vice” and “the Proud Boys” share the same founder? I shit you not, and he’s Canadian. Gotta be some sort of pot-stirrer award out there for that guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes

In the meantime, I’ll just leave this pic here:

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There’s a YouTube channel called “Curious Cars”. The guy is hilarious. He does reviews of old cars, and one of his bits is to show the back seat and say something like “Lots of room for Canadians back there”.

Maybe an old Lincoln is a good car for driving around with Gavin Newsome in the back seat.

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You might recall that I pedal an unusually clean ‘86 Townie. I have a couple of Canadian friends who’ve rode around in both the back and front seats. One of them used to be a contributing editor of Canada’s only gun magazine. Great guy. At the onset of the GWOT, he took advantage of Canada’s protectionist laws that give priority to Canadian companies. At the time, there were no manufacturers of AR-15 platform rifles in Canada, so he and the other magazine guy bought the gear and started a company making rifles for the Canadian forces, who were then instantly required to buy them, instead of US made Colts. At some early point, the Gov’t said “hey, how about we take this company off your hands” so they liquidated, and my buddy spent his half buying a chunk of a private island. He still has a day job, but he’s got the most killer vacay getaway known to the common man. At any rate the best of Canadians are really something. There aren’t many people alive that I respect more than that guy. Right now, he’s building a skiff, by hand, to get out to the island, just because he wanted a second boat and was bored. He laid it out in his bedroom, because he needed the flat floor space—temperature controlled—to epoxy the sides, which he then sent out off the 2nd story balcony with pulleys, because there was no way to get the long sides of a skiff out the bedroom door. 😀 I freaking love that guy. Actually, he’s the first dude I thought of when the idea of inviting other free thinkers to join here came up.

on December 17, 2020
he’s the first dude I thought of when the idea of inviting other free thinkers to join here came upFrom Sidhedude

Do it!

Funny you should mention a “gun guy”. I read this just as I was about to start a gun thread. 

(Coming in a moment…)

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